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Episode 030: Whedonesque

February 16th, 2009 · Joe · 5 Comments

* Congratulations Fraser from the Accidental Survivors podcast.

* V3-2 is almost here. February 28th.

* Aron Head has a new blog, Ideology of Madness, and they’re hosting a contest.

* V3-3 is going to be June 6th.

* Support Adam walking up stairs (or support Phil). Details on the forums.

* Matt didn’t waste his money on his new boots

* Joss Whedon is our master now

* Feminism and Chauvinism in the Whedonverse

* Death and tragedy

* Technical skill and its influences

* Favorite moments, lines, and characters

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  • 1 Fraser // Feb 16, 2009 at 7:18 am

    Thanks for the congrats. It is important that the world recognize both my male prowess and potency.

    And if YOU want to increase your virility, listen to the Accidental Survivors (http://accidentalsurvivors.com/) guaranteed to increase your prowess and potency!

    Note: guarantee will not be honoured.

  • 2 Joe // Feb 16, 2009 at 9:12 am

    No problem, Fraser. Congratulations again.

    I had thought of doing a hodge for this episode, but given the length, I decided not to. In addition to the Firefly series boxed set, Serenity DVD, Serenity special edition DVD, Firefly comic books, and Serenity companions, all officially produced, there is one other Firefly/Serenity item that people may or may not know about. It’s called Done the Impossible. The reason why you may not have heard about it is because it’s a fan produced DVD. I bought the thing, because I’m a Firefly fanatic, but I didn’t watch it for the longest time, worrying that a fan-produced DVD would be of such poor quality that it would cause me pain. After recording this episode, though, I watched a lot of the thing right then. I can’t say I watched all of it because the disc holds so much information that it’s impossible (or at least unhealthy) to watch the thing in one setting.

    So, the main documentary–hosted by Adam Baldwin–is about 90 minutes long and discusses the creation of Firefly, the Browncoat movement, and the eventual release of the Serenity movie. It includes interviews with Adam, Alan, Nathan, Morena, Jewel, Ron, Joss, and Tim as well as some other key producers and designers who you might not know on a first-name basis. It also includes interviews with a LOT of fans (Browncoats and Fillionaires), including the people that the creators themselves credit with a lot of the successful gorilla marketing that reassured Universal that there was an audience for a Firefly movie.

    There is an interactive timeline narrated by Jewel Staite, from show inception to movie launch. The timeline really is interactive and here’s why you can’t watch it all in one setting. They recorded audio and/or video from Dragon*Con, ComicCon, WorldCon, and a few others and include them in the timeline for relevant information. They also have additional commentary that was clearly shot for the main documentary but wasn’t used (though sometimes it’s a repeat what’s from the documentary). There’s music, there’s trivia, there’s even a dedicated song to a Browncoat from the original Fox forum who died before the movie’s release.

    If you love Firefly and/or Serenity, Done the Impossible is worth the purchase.

  • 3 jdac // Feb 23, 2009 at 12:30 am

    “No, I wanna hear about the girl [TIME PARADOX] …okay, we’ll just cut that segment.”

    I got sold on Buffy because I watched an excellent episode from a later season which persuaded me to sit through the first season. Might be a good way to push it to the unsuspecting public.

    I tend to preface discussions of Whedonverse series with “Joss Whedon hates you,” but I try not to spoil the tragedies. Actually people who have watched them with me generally don’t talk about our beloved characters and their deaths. It’s too painful.

    Adam makes a Ghostbusters reference when he hasn’t even seen it? Shenanigans!

    However, “don’t cross the streams” followed by “the hammer is my penis” made my night.

    Thanks for following me on twitter, Luke. I’ll try to come up with more interesting things to say.

    ~jdac

  • 4 Donald // Feb 24, 2009 at 12:59 pm

    Serenity Summary:
    Despite the flaws it was still pretty darned good.

    Mr. Universe sucked, and made no sense the way he related to the crew

    Accepting Book and Wash had to die, their deaths were pretty weak, and I came to realize he was just following a formula instead of trying to really make it work. Book’s death felt like a contract dispute being dealt with on screen and actually took me out of the movie viewing experience. Wash’s death felt like a random “insert death here” instead of crafting a good scene.

    Dollhouse:
    The show is starting out pretty weak compared to Firefly. Am I the only one who thinks the show seems like it’s the other half of the “My Own Worst Enemy”? It lacks the punchy character interaction. Here is hoping it gets better.

  • 5 Joe // Feb 24, 2009 at 3:44 pm

    Serenity: Mr. Universe’s relationship with the crew makes a lot more sense in the movie novelization because they actually take time to explain who he is and why the crew would both to associate with him. Wash finished 2nd in flight school even though he’s one of the most gifted pilots of his generation. Mr. Universe finished first. Not because he was a better pilot, but because he’s one of the best computer minds of his generation and fixed it so that he came in first. They use him from time to time when his unique skill set/paranoid dementia come in handy.

    I don’t want to say the deaths are formulaic, but merely a mindset of his that he might not break out of. I had commented where Wash’s death didn’t seem necessary and that’s not actually true. I used to think that Book could be in a coma on the ship and be just as poignant, but then Ron Glass bailed on a panel after I waited for three hours so now I say Wash should have survived. ;)

    Dollhouse: A lot of TV shows suck at first and get better. Some have really really powerful first episodes. Some have really powerful episodes and don’t last long. If by the end of the season Dollhouse hasn’t solidified, then it’s unlikely it will make it anywhere.

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